Guys, I don't know where to start... so,,, Scoop Thanks to you and ALL others for your service, you must be near k town, and I don't mean Kingsport. Rude 1, my wife was born in Mtn City Tn, but raised in Indiana, near the queen anne candy factory, her dad worked in steel mills till his untimely death from a massive stroke at IIRC 36 yrs old, then she moved back to tn. Old mossy, guess you saw my Fl connection, miss the fishing there. Ernst, not enough info, from just looking at post, but thanks. Jmm14534, I do some trading with a guy that is older than me, that retired from IBM IIRC in upstate Ny. John A, I've got a penny on my key ring with a hole punched in it with a 17hmr, then FINALLY Aguila started making 5mm rem magnum rimfire again, I had a couple of boxes of the orig Rem 38g core lockt so sold my .17 and got a 592 and a Contender bull bbl when they made a limited run. yeah I live in the Tri City area. CaddmanQ Mopar or No Car, lol, have an SRT-4, put a pistol grip shifter in it, Gunslinger in AZ IIRC makes them for all neons and PT cruisers , kowalski got me hooked on the hurst pistol grip shifters. Learned to drive in the pasture out back on a 42 Jeep, it was either a Willys with a Ford windshield, or vice versa,, I was about 13 then, sure wish I had that vehicle back. Mean streak, I have a cousin that was born here, a hillbilly, moved to Tarpon Springs Fl when he was about 6 I think, he is older than me, he has a friend Ed, that rides a Harley , He is from Ok, don't remember where now, spends some time in winter down there in New Port Richey. Oh Jmm14534, a 20 ga is why I joined this forum,,, well I've run my mouth enough now, Thanks to all you guys, maybe I can find some info on the 20ga Cruiser, w heat shield parkerized, bead site model 5038 I have setting here. Have 3 kids, oldest son, and the baby my daughter born on same day, March 23rd, youngest son in August. The oldest son turns the big 4 oh then, daughter was born in 88. Youngest son will be 38 his birthday. The Cruiser actually belongs to my oldest son, his wife has a PhD and has kind of turned him into a semi "snow flake" he still has a .45 1911 style I gave him, and a Walther p22 I think, I may just buy this 20 ga from him , I had an FFL for about 15 years, but got him the 500 off an auction site, then he transferred it to himself when it got here. Maybe only been fired 25 or so times, have box all paperwork etc. For Christmas got him a hogue pistol grip for it, and a shock wave, It's here at my place, haven't fired it yet with either of the two non factory grips. Let my FFL go in the mid 90"s. Looks like they don't make this 500 anymore, posted about it earlier, haven't had a reply yet. Thanks guys, I will shut up for now,