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G43 first shots

Discussion in 'Range Reports' started by Djcala, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Djcala

    Djcala .30-06 Supporter

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    Took the small GLOCK 9mm, and sent a few down range. It's a little snappy was using Hornady critical duty 115 for first shots. Fed fine fired fine hits fine,,,boringly so.
    I did a bit of side by side with my Taurus 380(which I adore and have in pocket all day everyday). The only boggle I have is 380 is pretty blah in the defense dept, I'm sure you'll leave me alone if I start putting em in your chest BUT we'll its still light medicine. Always in back of,my mind. Heres some pics side by the glock 43 is,bigger but not alot, main thing is width. The pt738 is lost in my pocket the g43 will be noticeable. Both cover with hand for size compare, Not debating carry styles here, I do them all as needed or,appropriate BUT I pocket carry ALWAYS wether appropriate or not pants on gun in.
    Here's the very first 3 rounds thru the G , 7 yards 8x11 paper. Same thing for compare with the pt738, not fair as it has over 1k thru it in my hands. The g43 group 0416191057_20190416113128970.jpg 0416191057b_20190416113147339.jpg 0416191108_20190416113230662.jpg 0416191057_20190416113128970.jpg 0416191057_20190416113128970.jpg 0416191057b_20190416113147339.jpg 0416191108_20190416113230662.jpg 0416191109_20190416113303997.jpg 0416191104_20190416113209089_20190416113819503.jpg 0416191057b_20190416113147339.jpg 0416191108_20190416113230662.jpg 0416191109_20190416113303997.jpg 0416191109_20190416113303997.jpg will tighten up in a few,minutes practice. But both do whats required of,them. Il spend a month with new one and determine if,I switch fulltime ????
  2. Djcala

    Djcala .30-06 Supporter

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    Stand by 25 yd, sniper challenge with the pocket pistols on rest :doh:one shot each make or break, (@Scoop you hush sir, its for fun not science) 155543046674334199809467460191.jpg
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  3. Djcala

    Djcala .30-06 Supporter

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    Winner headshot sniper challenge 0416191209_HDR_20190416121036070.jpg the .380 Taurus closest to,the pin, Full disclosure the target over baby sites at 25 yard is questionable blur, alot of reliance on the force.
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  4. John A.

    John A. Unconstitutional laws are not laws. Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator

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    That's all that matters buddy.

    If you are hitting what you are aiming at, that means a whole lot more than just making a bunch of pops bangs and noise.
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  5. Scoop

    Scoop .30-06

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    So DJ got me ready for the "1st Shot Challenge"

    I went out this afternoon with 5 guns. I only fired 4 of them because I left all the .38 for the Taurus 5 shot revolver in the garage.

    At 25 yds I fired one shot w/ the G30. It was 1 o'clock 2" out.
    G19 was right on the aiming point
    Browning 1908 .25 Auto was 5 o'clock 11" low.
    That gun is itty bitty and very hard for me to shoot. My hands are so big it is a challenge to get a grip that will depress the grip safety and keep the web of my thumb away from the slide. I had to readjust my grip for about 20 seconds, then after a couple of false pulls because of the safety I finally got a shot off. The sights on this thing are horrible. This is definitely not the artillery to use at 25 yards.

    Last was the S&W .22 8-shot revolver. I carry this when I'm on the motorcycle. More of a signalling device than self-defense. I actually bought it to do training. Anyhoo... for its first shot I've got my arms laid out on the desk for support, hammer cocked... I'm waving it around a little to get a sight picture... steady... but before I'm ready it pops. 4.5 inches out to the right. After that damned .25 auto that I had so much trouble with I wasn't ready for the crispness of the S&W's trigger. But that was the first shot.

    Just to see what the gun would really do if handled correctly I fired the 2nd and 3rd shots and they were respectable at 4.2 and 3 inches.

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  6. Djcala

    Djcala .30-06 Supporter

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    @Scoop love a first shot challenge, possibly the MOST important challenge.
    As I prepare for bow season , my bow hangs in corner of garage, theres a bow cube 30 yards out from door, when I walk by bow couple times a day I take 1 shot with it, at varied distance from 15 to 35 randomly. But ya get the idea, practicing the cold biw shot,is,good. I can always shoot awhile,and get warmed up and dailed in tight, but what happens live ???
    Good shooting can you see your black square at 25 or are ya kinda meh... Like my eyes.
  7. Scoop

    Scoop .30-06

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    I know it's been about a year-and-a-half since you asked this question, but I'm reviewing old stuff here for reference.

    My eyes... mainly right one, are a challenge.

    I can see the black square at 25. The middle aimpoint is 7/8" square and the outline is 5 x 5.

    I have a wrinkle in the retina of my right eye so if I look at a straight line
    like
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    it looks sort of like

    ----___-___----_____

    to me.
    The lines on the target don't cause that much of a problem... it is that the top of the sights won't stay the same shape.
    Imagine what the dancing sight picture looks like.

    If I'm going for accuracy, but not speed, I'll tip the gun to the left about 10 to 20 degrees and my smooth left eye serves me well.

    My eye has been like that for about 30 years but I'm not going to have that "fixed."


    That target, by the way, is used for my 5x5x5x5x5 drills.

    Drill:

    5" x 5" target at 5 meters, draw and fire 5 shots in <5 seconds.
    Passing is 100%. Note there is no center spot inside the square.

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  8. Bobster

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    I am left eye dominant but right-handed. As my eyes become more "vintage", I have started shooting left-handed mainly as ambidextrous practice. But also to get a clearer sight picture. Pistol I was skewing my head slightly to aim with the left eye with right hand grip. Rifle was still right eyed but adequate.

    You have "floaters" which many of us do. Shit in the eyes over the years... :( NOT an "easy" fix for that
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  9. Scoop

    Scoop .30-06

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    Yes on the floaters. Those and the wrinkled retina.

    I've done left-handed shooting also. Got lefty holsters. Ran a couple of IDPA matches lefty. One of the best things changing back and forth is that it gave me some perspective about what my newbie students go thru when trying to form a grip, draw, and adapt to cross-eye dom. Makes me understand what it takes explain all the steps and pieces.

    I learned that from a golf instructor who was teaching himself to play lefty. He said he had to learn everything anew and it amplified what he needed to get across to teach the mechanics of swing.

    Let me give you what I found out worked for me shooting with opposite dominate eye. [Passed on from a really expert instructor I met in the Polite Society.]

    Don't contort any part of your body to align your eye to sight. Just tip the gun over, not bend your wrist to move the back of the gun. Bending ruins your grip and hand-to-elbow-to-shoulder geometry. At self-defense combat distances the impact displacement with a tilted gun is so small that the effectiveness is not decreased.

    As an exercise get about 10 yds from a small bullseye and shoot 8 shots from gun straight up and then around 45 degrees at a time. You'll find that when the pistol is upside down the impact is slightly below where the sight picture is, but it is still a killer shot. So the cant of the gun doesn't make practical shooting less effective. You'll have your gun on its side when you have to shoot lying on the floor thru a door and other odd situations like that.

    Your mileage may vary. But it's fun to see what happens when you shoot with different contortions.

    When the weather gets better I'll try to get a target posted here to demo the rotating gun effect.
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  10. cmcdonald

    cmcdonald Forum Moderator Staff Member Moderator Supporter "Philanthropist"

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    Same here...that's why my pistol skills are a bit shaky I think, skewing a bit left for sight picture. I shoot left for all long guns. But for pistol I'm right hand dominant. I bat left, shoot hockey left. I am most certainly right hand dominant for everything else, it is my power hand/arm for certain. I'm sure with enough pistol practice I could overcome it, I managed to keep a pretty good pace making the beer can jump with my 9mm. LOL..certainly far from scientific. :laugh:
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