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Why do we do it?

CaddmannQ

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I was asked this by an Australian kid on another forum. He doesn't remember the days before 2000.

Anyhow this was the reply I posted:
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I'll try to explain without ranting or getting all political, but it's tough. I get angry. You'd get angry too if someone wanted to take away your stuff, right?

You asked "what is the fascination with guns (specifically so many)".

If you are a collector, there's hundreds of different styles and types. No different than any type of collecting really.

Why are we buying in record numbers? Fascination?

No, it's mainly fear and anger.

We're mad at the US government. (Half the world hates the US government, why should the US citizens be different?)

As soon as you try and prohibit something we have, something we handed down over the generations, and particularly something our laws guarantee us, Americans are going to protest and fight. (Sorry Mr POTUS, It's "who we are".)

BTW, prices of guns and ammo are rising here, and the value of our money is slipping away.

It makes sense as an investment right now. Things are going to be harder to get here for sure, and if they make them all illegal, they'll be worth even more.

Now if by using certain words like "fascination" and saying "it's really strange" you mean to imply there is something evil and unwholesome about owning guns, I can certainly understand why you get that idea.

This is a propaganda image the governments are selling the world because they don't want to deal with any civil revolt the next time they try to hike taxes and such. They do everything they can to persuade people that: "Guns are evil so you don't need them unless you are evil too."

Now sometimes you need a revolt, and I know people who would take away my guns now, but were ready to supply them to Ho Chi Minh, because they thought his revolt was OK. It's all so political.

But America's most famous heroes pretty much all carried guns. It's them we emulate. Not the evil ones. Not the revolting anarchists. Not the gangsters.

It's George Washington, Daniel Boone . . . the heroes of our culture.

Also, It's a very Zen experience for me to target shoot. When I'm doing it, the entire world goes away between the time I look into the scope and the time I pull the trigger. It's hard to understand if it's never happened to you


You know there's a big push here to ban all "assault rifles", and they're vilifying the AR-15 as a horrible military weapon totally unnecessary for civilian use. But the propagandists won't mention that the AR-15 is the Army's lightest duty rifle. It's not some atomic robot gun. It's the smallest caliber gun they use. It's the cheapest rifle they buy for combat. It's also one of the world's best made guns, and because of that it's very popular with collectors, hunters, and target shooters too.

Now that politicians are trying to make them illegal, they are being bought up fast and the wholesalers are all out of stock. This means that America will continue to be the best armed country on earth. I tell you, that's not a position we will give up willingly.

It's all sort of funny. When I was a kid, everyone was worried to death about atomic war. Now, that never happened, but somehow now, people are even more worried about plain old gun ownership.

How come nobody's worried about Iran having nukes?

Everyone's focused on these silly little .223 caliber guns, and we're gonna trust Iran not to start WW3 with Israel?
 
Thank you, thats technically true, but of course they are kissing cousins and people equate the M4 and AR 100% on looks alone.

Which is totally unsurprising considering that that's the same way most people pick their elected officials.

Hell, Bert Parks should be officiating our elections, but he's probably been dead 30 years.
 
They're not listening, but yes give it a go.

It certainly bears repeating.
 
here are a couple more .....


M16 A4-A3-A2
M27
MK16
MK18
HK416


however they are all based on the AR10/15......the original Armalite Rifle 15 including the M4 carbine
 
Dad carried an M16 in 1965, but the M4 is not too different. A little more advanced.

My point was that, at .223 cal, it's the smallest caliber weapon the army uses. AFAIK, no army shoots a smaller caliber in combat.
 
AK 74 is 5.45x 39. Dimensionally smaller. But basically the equivalent to 5.56x45

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You need to show these Liberals photos of an M4 and a Garand, then ask which is the most powerful and which has killed the most enemy soldiers over the years....

Of course it won't be the Garand, because thats not black.. :D
 
I stand corrected.

I find that the small Russian slug is .221 cal, or smaller by about 0.003" dia. than the 0.224" dia. Rem .223.
 
Caddman, your such an engineer. I love it. I bet yourself and me could have hours upon hours of utter gibberish in my shop, and love ever geeky minute of it.
 
Without a doubt. I love to build stuff. All kinds. Always have.

Professionally, I don't design anything anymore but computer setups. But if you find me building something it's because I designed it.

Right now I'm just dying to wrap all of this landscaping and Home Improvement BS up, so I can get back to work on my old car.

The restorers in the Plymouth Club are going to hate me.
 
I have a great way of catching out the "ban assault rifles" libtards.

Show them a picture of a stainless steel Ruger Mini 14 and ask them if they would call that an "assault rifle" ?

With it's polished stainless metalwork and folksy looking wooden stock it catches them out every time. Whereas we all know that the the capability of the two guns is virtually the same.
 
BTW Australian kids like British kids are anti-gun brainwashed. They tried hard with me in school in England..........................Massive fail with me despite their best efforts hahahahahaha.
 
I look at it like this:

Every Swiss person learns to shoot a gun. Every homeowner keeps a gun.

Are the Swiss people evil? Have they invaded any other country? Do people hate the Swiss because they are evil gun owners?

NO!

They're the most intelligent, cleanest & most respected people in Europe from what I can tell.
 
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