Yo, Michigan. Open carry is legal but...

[OhioArcher]

...you can legally be harassed and/or detained by exercising your legal rights.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fe...ce-detain-individuals-open-carrying-firearms/

Several months later Deffert filed a federal lawsuit alleging his constitutional rights were violated and that he was assaulted and falsely imprisoned. The legality of open carry in the Michigan was never in question, only if law enforcement had the authority to detain an individual simply because they were open carrying a firearm, according to court records.

In the most convoluted of logic, U.S. District Judge Janet Neff claimed that officers do have such authority. Neff wrote that the officers were “justified in following up on the 9-1-1 call and using swift action to determine whether [Deffert’s] behavior gave rise to a need to protect or preserve life … in the neighborhood.”

I can see both sides of the equation. Is he legally carrying because he can or is he some pyscho, like the kid in SC, waiting to take a shot at somebody? Which is the lesser of the two "evils" (to some anyway), seeing someone carrying or thinking they may be because it is concealed?

Oh, yeah, don't OC and wear camouflage...if he was dressed in casual work clothes or a suit this probably never would have occurred. But the lady was scared by the camo...

 

[MikeD]

It's bad enough that OC'ers get harassed as much as they do, if the courts start supporting OC as RAS for stop that is a BAD thing and leads us down the wrong path. Not good.

 

[OhioArcher]

There was a 911 call about a guy carrying a gun walking in the street in Madisonville not far from here (work) this morning. CPD responded. Guy opened fire, killing one officer, a 27 yr veteran. 22-yr old suspect is wounded (just found out he died as well). Over 40 rounds were fired between the suspect and the officers. Not sure what type of weapon was used yet.

 

[OhioArcher]

UPDATE: The 911 calls (two of them) were made by the gunman. It appears he was on a "suicide-by-cop" mission. It worked but he killed a good cop before he was killed by another. The officer was wearing his ballistic vest but appears to have died from a GSW to the chest.