Water Monkey said:
oli700 said:
WM considering your states population a couple thousand is a joke, I cant believe you all thought everything was ok till it wasn’t
Oli I think you need to dial it back a little bit.
NOBODY thought it was ok until it wasn't. The phones, faxes, and emails were constant to the senate weeks before the back door deal was done.
OK, I’m not about to argue with you about this. I was not talking weeks…….I am talking a lifetime.
I realize you all can drive a train through you asses right now, and the final nail in NY 2A coffin was driven in overnight but the grave was dug and the coffin was built over many many years.
I bet I have educated as many oblivious gun owners on NY’s situation as you, possibly more.
Water Monkey said:
Dont draw a line and then stand there look me in the eye and say I'm not with you. Not only is that thinking detrimental to the cause, that shit pisses me off.
I am not trying to draw a line, although I think you are right in a way and I need to step back from all this. I am to the point of questioning peoples dedication to this, and if it doesn’t match mine or my expectation then it’s simply not good enough, that’s not fair to folks……I apologize for that. As far as you being pissed…..good, you better be . Be pissed at me , be pissed at the system…..be pissed at yourself. What pisses me off is you offer to carry a brother over the line on your shoulders if you have to but yet your batting 500 on yourself showing ….I know it snowed. Again I am sorry for over analyzing this and picking it apart, its who I am and I am relentless. That’s why I am stepping off.
Tim4k5 said:
Oli, as much as it pains me to say it, you couldn't be more incorrect about not needing the sheeple. The fact is, we need them more now than we ever have.
Tim, you are a wise man. I may be wrong in your eyes but you aren’t following me, my immediate community, brothers in arms and family are who needs my efforts.
Educated, uneducated sheep…..no matter to me . I am not going to change my lifestyle, don’t care what they pass in congress or my Democratic state……
I refuse to alter my ways to try to woo over folks who could give a rat’s ass where my dinner comes from. They aren’t wanted here, needed here or will ever be welcome here.
I don’t need wishy washy touchy feely people in my camp, we need honed well oiled machines that have no question where their allegiances lay.
I have realized that just educating 2A supporters is a full time job . If all the 2A supporters were on the same page then we would be invincible. When I say I have educated more gun owners I am not kidding. I have hung flyers everywhere 2A supporters congregate. Every time there are folks who are oblivious to the situation.I always lead with what happened in NY, MOST gun owner have no idea……I have had to call into work at lunch and tell them I had to go home when in reality I was haning a flyer at a LGS and had a group of 20+ people engaged in a conversation about all this, not one knew what was going on in NY……these are the folks that need my efforts not some uninformed , ungrateful, self centered waist of skin.
My state has stupid bills floating around too that won’t go anywhere……..we also have a bill making all federal decisions on the 2A issues null and void here……..also equally as stupid and will never go anywhere either. It is a giant pissing match between the humans in charge that are battling over possession of our souls…..
Thanks to everyone here for all your efforts, I do appreciate the work you have all put in. I will continue to strengthen the people on my side, you guys continue to try to talk the enemy into coming over to our side.