Mossberg 500 Pump Action Customization and Modification

Discussion in 'Mossberg 500 Pump Action' started by DHonovich, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. DHonovich

    DHonovich Founder Staff Member Administrator Sponsor "Philanthropist"

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    Current Setup
    Mossberg 500 Tactical Persuader
    BlackHawks Breachersgrip Shotgun Stock
    CDM MT Clamp With 3 Slot Rail And QD Swivel
    TLR-1s

    Old Parts
    Phoenix Technology Tactical Series Adjustable Stock With Kicklite And Forend
    Speedfeed 1 Buttstock And Forend With Integral Magazine Tubes
    GG&G Slot End Plate Sling Mount Adapter
    Summit Tactical Sling (Dual Config. Black)
    Mossberg Heat Shield
    ATI Top Folding Stock
    ATI 6-Position Collapsable Stock
    ATI 5 Shell Holder
    Laserlyte Tri-Rail Mounting System

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    When looking for a shotgun stock there are many factors to consider. Personally, I was looking for a stock for my Mossberg 500 (home defense and/or tactical purposes). My ideal stock would be one that allowed for the Mossberg to be short enough to be easily maneuvered in an urban setting while having still having a a stock that is functional when needed. I had previously owned ATI products before so I decided to try out their two options that fit my needs; ATI top folding stock and ATI 6 position collapsible stock. I want to mention that there are several other companies that I could have gone with such as Blackhawk, Mesa Tactical, Phoenix Technology, etc.

    The ATI units are packaged in a clear bag which helps shoppers get a better idea of what they are buying while at the store. This did not matter to me much since I bought the ATI stock online. Once I opened the bag there was another bag that contained the smaller hardware as well as guide for the product.

    The installation was a breeze and was completed in only a few minutes. The instructions were thorough enough to clearly explain how to install the product but not complicated enough where they are hard to follow. The only tools needed are a philips head screwdriver and an allen key. One nice addition to this kit is that it comes with two extra base plates to allow you to install this item on a Remington or Winchester shotgun.

    When it comes to using the stock I do not have a single complaint about the item. It easily collapses and extends with the touch of a button. This stock does a good job with recoil but could certainly improve in this area when compared to other available units for the Mossberg. I think this is a great tactical stock but if you are looking for the most reliable stock this may not be the one for you. I would not be confident that this stock would hold up when doing a mortar drill with it. The hardware that ATI provides could use some improvements as they are simply wood screws and are not the most durable option available to secure the stock to your Mossberg.

    I then changed my stock to an ATI Top Folding Stock
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    When looking for a shotgun stock there are many factors to consider. Personally, I was looking for a stock for my Mossberg 500 (home defense and/or tactical purposes). My ideal stock would be one that allowed for the Mossberg to be short enough to be easily maneuvered in an urban setting while having still having a a stock that is functional when needed. I had previously owned ATI products before so I decided to try out their two options that fit my needs; ATI top folding stock and ATI 6 position collapsable stock. I want to mention that there are several other companies that I could have gone with such as Blackhawk, Mesa Tactical, Phoenix Technology, etc.

    The ATI units are packaged in a clear bag which helps shoppers get a better idea of what they are buying while at the store. This did not matter to me much since I bought the ATI stock online. Once I opened the bag there was another bag that contained the smaller hardware as well as guide for the product.

    The installation was a breeze and was completed in only a few minutes. The instructions were thorough enough to clearly explain how to install the product but not complicated enough where they are hard to follow. The only tools needed are a philips head screwdriver and an allen key. One nice addition to this kit is that it comes with two extra base plates to allow you to install this item on a Remington or Winchester shotgun.

    When it comes to using the stock I do not have a single complaint about the item. It easily folds up onto the shotgun and with a push of a button folds down to become a fully functional stock. It may not be the most comfortable stock in the world but for its purpose as a home defense and/or tactical stock it is great. One thing I should note is that if you are looking for the most reliable stock this may not be the one for you as I would not be confident that this stock would hold up when doing a mortar drill with it. The hardware that ATI provides could use some improvements as they are simply wood screws and are not the most durable option available to secure the stock to your Mossberg.

    Added an ATI 5 Shell Holder
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    Added a TLR-1s and Laserlyte Tri-Rail Mounting System
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    After several months of owning the TLR-1S I can confidently say that this tactical light ROCKS! The fit and finish are excellent; holding up to heavy use in rain, snow (New York winter), heat (Texas summer) and everyday abuse (standing up to nearly 1500 rounds of shotgun shells). The 160 lumens (produced by the C4 LED) that the TLR-1S puts out is enough to illuminate most rooms making it perfect for use in a house. The strobe feature is great but it may be difficult to activate under extreme stress. It is something to think about when debating between the TLR-1 and the TLR-1S. I would still purchase the TLR-1S over the TLR-1 but if you are really on a budget the strobe feature for me is not a deal breaker.

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  2. hunter72

    hunter72 .223

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    Re: My Mossberg 500 Pump Action Build...

    How stable is the top folder, up and down?
    I just got ahold of one as trade boot.
    Did the shell holder come with it or did you get it after mkt?

    I am doing a full build from a stripped reciever up with parts aquired from several places, I think it will be nearly identicle to yours.
    with the exception of being on a 88 frame. I am bound up on weither to use the M4 style collapsable or the top folder.
  3. DHonovich

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    Re: My Mossberg 500 Pump Action Build...

    It is fairly stable but I have not put enough rounds through it to comment on how truly durable it is. Others have had issues with them holding up over time with heavy use but we will see. I know the older versions had some quality control issues and were being installed with wood screws but in late 2009 ATI was taken over by new management. It seems their products are being produced better than before but I could be wrong. The shell holder was additional (it is an ATI part as well). I really like the M4 style collapsable stock but I wanted something with less of a profile at the moment. I will likely switch back to the M4 style down the road. Let me know if that answered your questions.
  4. hunter72

    hunter72 .223

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    Sure did,

    I will evaluate it as well, I have 400 rnds of clay loads sitting here and when the stock get here Ill do a eval, and w\rite up.
    I have had ok luck with ATI, kinda hit and miss.

    Right now I have so many extra parts its time to start building up some more shottys...

    Steve
  5. DHonovich

    DHonovich Founder Staff Member Administrator Sponsor "Philanthropist"

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    Re: My Mossberg 500 Pump Action Build...

    I put about 3000 rounds through the mossberg 500 with the ATI 6-position collapsable stock and it held up great but probably wouldn't survive a mortar drill if I ever had to do so.
  6. E4x4Eric

    E4x4Eric .223

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    Taht's a lot of rounds :shock: . I like that design, it looks very practical.
  7. DHonovich

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    Yea I went twice a weekend for a while when I first got the shotgun. I got pretty good at trap with this setup :D
  8. DHonovich

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    Re: My Mossberg 500 Pump Action Build...

    I have some new plans for this mossberg 500 and hopefully will be ordering them shortly :)
  9. hunter72

    hunter72 .223

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    DO TELL.

    Just orderd my top folder,

    I keep at least 1 500 action around to play with and build "zombie" guns (pretty much anything new I try it.
    Im a 500/590 whore.

    I got a box of parts and assys, I switch around like Barbie dresses, Im sick, I have a problem

    Hello my name is Steve, I am a ...........
  10. DHonovich

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    Re: My Mossberg 500 Pump Action Build...

    I just ordered the CDM Gear MT clamp with 3 slot rail and QD swivel
  11. DHonovich

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    I just ordered Speedfeed 1 Buttstock And Forend With Integral Magazine Tubes and GG&G Slot End Plate Sling Mount Adapter
  12. Rossignol

    Rossignol The Original Sheriff Staff Member Global Moderator Sponsor Forum Moderator

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    Re: My Mossberg 500 Pump Action Build...

    Nice!!! I'll be watching!
  13. DHonovich

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    First Impressions: The Speedfeed 1 Buttstock With Integral Magazine Tubes has a very solid feel to it. You can quickly tell that this stock will hold up to just about any abuse you could throw at it; within reason of course :twisted: . The grip has a great feel to it and would allow for a secure grip even when wet or muddy. The integral magazine tubes are one of the great features of this stock and are very easy to use. The only downside to them is if you are left-handed and then the two shells are located high up on the side where you would be resting your cheek. You can still use this stock if your a left-handed but it is definitely more ergonomic for right-handed users.

    Installation: Installation involved removing your current stock and tightening one bolt with a screw driver.

    Use: The butt pad, which is quite soft, does a great job with reducing recoil. The addition of the 4 extra shells in the stock provide some added weight to the stock which I feel attributes to some reduced recoil as well. When it comes down to its tactical use I consider this stock one of the best available. It has a short length of pull, an extremely durable construction, no accessories that could potentially get caught on things (like shotshell holders), the ability to hold an additional 4 shells that are easily accessible and a great grip for inclement conditions. I do enjoy shooting a shotgun for tactical purposes with a pistol grip but with Mossberg's and their tang safety it is much more ergonomic to use a conventional stock style like this Speedfeed 1 Buttstock With Integral Magazine Tube.

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  14. DHonovich

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  15. hunter72

    hunter72 .223

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    CC,

    I think I found someone who has more "barbie" clothes than I have and likes to dress his "Barbie" more than I do/
  16. DHonovich

    DHonovich Founder Staff Member Administrator Sponsor "Philanthropist"

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    Yea I have a serious issue with modifying my toys. I can't leave something stock for long.
  17. DHonovich

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    Re: My Mossberg 500 Pump Action Build...

    The after XMAS purchases for my Mossberg 500 will be:
    Brownells Mossberg 500 Safety Kit
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    Tacstar Side Saddle Shell Holder
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  18. DHonovich

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    I received my Phoenix Technology Tactical Series Adjustable Stock With Kicklite And Forend today.
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    Phoenix Technology Tactical Series Adjustable Stock With KickLite

    First Impressions: The stock and forend have a quality feel to them in part due to them being made by injection molded premium grade glass filled nylon and shock absorbing elastomers. The stock slides easily from one position to the next with very little play which is nice considering a lot of collapsible stocks tend to have a fair amount of wobble to them. The pistol grip is not the most comfortable option available for a Mossberg 500 but it certainly gets the job done; to be fair it is more comfortable than the ATI 6 position collapsible stock Gen 1 but certainly not as ergonomic as the BlackHawk Knoxx SpecOps collapsible stock. By pushing on the butt pad of the stock you easily feel the KickLite technology working. The butt pad has a firm but soft feel to it.

    Installation: Everything you need to install the stock is provided by Phoenix Technology including the forend wrench if you opted for the Phoenix Technology forend. Installation involved removing your current stock and tightening one allen bolt with the provided allen key.

    Use: With the ability to quickly adjust from 11.5" to 15" of length of pull finding a comfortable position is easy for users of all ages and sizes. The angle of the stock allows for good cheek weld position (for me at least :twisted: ). Other collapsible stock stocks generally require the use of a stock drop adapter. When shooting heavy loads such as slugs and 00 buckshot you can quickly feel the reduction in recoil provided by the KickLite technology. I had a harder time feeling a difference while shooting lighter loads such as birdshot but after shooting a couple hundred rounds my shoulder was thankful to have had the KickLite technology reducing recoil :twisted:. The universal 12ga shotgun shell holder is made of a flexible material and at first glance has a bit of a cheap feel to it but functionally it works really well. I was used to more traditional universal 12ga shotgun shell holders which tend to be more rigid but the more I used the Phoenix Technology version the more I liked it. I note this because some people may prefer a more rigid shell holder but the added flexibility for me adds a degree of durability to it. You could apply more force to it without worries of breaking it.

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  19. DHonovich

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    Updated thread
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    Blackhawk Breachersgrip Shotgun Stock For Mossberg

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    First Impressions: The BlackHawk Breachersgrip has a very solid feel to it.

    Installation: Installation involved removing your current stock and tightening one allen bolt with an allen key (not included in the kit). Overall a very easy installation.


    Use: When I asked a friend to tell me what he thought of the BlackHawk Breachersgrip after firing a bunch of slugs, 00 buck and bird shot down range he simply smiled and stated "FUN!" I could not agree more with his description. I have to admit I was very skeptical when I was told by BlackHawk that you can comfortably shoot this pistol grip with one hand but they are 100% correct in that statement. Not only is this pistol grip completely functional in greatly reducing recoil but it is very well built. I gave this pistol grip a beating and it never skipped a beat. BlackHawk did a great job building this pistol grip and I would be very confident in it holding up to quite a bit of abuse. I do want to mention that I have heard of one BlackHawk Knoxx stock breaking at the joint but I assume that it was due to some sort of manufacturer defect. The only flaw I have with this pistol grip is that it is a bit difficult to manipulate the slide release. The grip is not as ergonomic as the 2nd generation BlackHawk Knoxx stock but it gets the job done. I am being picky when it comes to this pistol grips faults but all in all this is a great pistol grip. I highly recommend the BlackHawk Breachersgrip to anyone looking for a pistol grip on their Mossberg!

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    There is a small o-ring that you can see in the picture above that needs to be removed before you install the BlackHawk Breachersgrip on your shotgun.
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    Please not that there is a crush washer so when you are tightening it you will have to give a little extra twist of the allen key to make it snug.
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    There is a solid sling swivel adapter located at the end of the grip which I used to attach an HK style clip to it.
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    Please note that you can not use some of the common sling mounts like the GG&G side sling adapter with the BlackHawk Breachersgrip.
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