I Googled Mossberg 4x4 and I found you guys. Lots of negativity about Mossberg out there in other Forums but it seems that in a lot of these gun forums that's mostly what you hear....negativity about something or another. The satisfied among us stay quiet and enjoy our jewels. I'll let the cat out the bag. I have a Mossberg 4x4 (30-06) laminate, bought new in 2012. I mounted a Zeiss 3-12x50 illuminated scope. I have half dollar groupings at 200 mtrs. I enjoy the rifle immensely. No issues to date. I hunt wild boar, various deer types and various mountain goat types in Germany and Czech Rep with it. Do I know rifles, maybe? I also own a Weatherby Vanguard (30-06), Tika (308), Remington 700 (270 Win), and a Blaser R93 Take Down (308). So when I say I enjoy my Mossberg, I'm saying I enjoy my Mossberg. Plan to participate in other conversations and want to hear what you guys are hunting with your Mossbergs or any other rifle brands. As we say in Germany Waidmannsheill (Good Hunting).